Ezra Klein and Gary Marcus
A Skeptical Take on the AI Revolution
The AI expert Gary Marcus asks: What if ChatGPT isn’t as intelligent as it seems?
The New York Times, 2023
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Learn why current large language models aren’t as intelligent as some people think – and how AI could get smarter with time.
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In this eye-opening episode of The Ezra Klein Show, neuroscientist and leading AI expert Gary Marcus offers his highly informed insights into the significant limitations of ChatGPT and similar large language models – and explains why more data won’t overcome them. Marcus also warns of ChatGPT’s serious social threats, including perpetuating misinformation at scale. However, he also outlines a way that more sophisticated artificial general intelligence systems could play valuable roles in science, medicine, work and everyday life in the decades to come.
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About the Podcast
Gary Marcus is considered a leading authority on AI, widely known for his research in human language development and cognitive neuroscience. He is professor emeritus of psychology and neural science at New York University and the founder of the machine learning companies Geometric Intelligence and Robust.AI. Marcus is the author of five books, including Rebooting AI: Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust. Ezra Klein is a journalist, political analyst and host of The Ezra Klein Show podcast for The New York Times.
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